Rajandran R FollowCreator of OpenAlgo - OpenSource Algo Trading framework for Indian Traders. Building GenAI Applications. Telecom Engineer turned Full-time Derivative Trader. Mostly Trading Nifty, Banknifty, High Liquid Stock Derivatives. Trading the Markets Since 2006 onwards. Using Market Profile and Orderflow for more than a decade. Designed and published 100+ open source trading systems on various trading tools. Strongly believe that market understanding and robust trading frameworks are the key to the trading success. Building Algo Platforms, Writing about Markets, Trading System Design, Market Sentiment, Trading Softwares & Trading Nuances since 2007 onwards. Author of Marketcalls.in
Directionless and Riskfree FNO Trading Strategy
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Strategy Summary
Buy 5 Lots of OCT 5200 CALL : 66.60 Buy 5 Lots of OCT 4800 PUT : 92.00 SELL 5 Lots of NOV 5000 CALL : 220.60 SELL 4 Lots of NOV 4800 PUT : 155 Buy 1 Lot of Nifty Future at CMP: 4967
Position Will be Closed on or Before OCT,2009 Expiry
Maximum Loss Risk Involved in the trade : 0.07% i.e Rs 250
Maximum Profit Potential : Infinity
Return if Nifty remains unchanged : 6.74% i.e Rs 23,311
During OCT Expiry
If Nifty closes at 4300 – Profit Rs 820×50 If Nifty closes at 4400 – Profit Rs 802×50 If Nifty closes at 4500 – Profit Rs 761×50 If Nifty closes at 4600 – Profit Rs 680×50 If Nifty closes at 4700 – Profit Rs 551×50 If Nifty closes at 4800 – Profit Rs 325×50 If Nifty closes at 4900 – Profit Rs 460×50 If Nifty closes at 5000 – Profit Rs 447×50 If Nifty closes at 5100 – Profit Rs 270×50 If Nifty closes at 5200 – Loss Rs -0.09×50 If Nifty closes at 5300 – Profit Rs 144×50 If Nifty closes at 5400 – Profit Rs 263×50 If Nifty closes at 5500 – Profit Rs 370×50 If Nifty closes at 5600 – Profit Rs 471×50 If Nifty closes at 5700 – Profit Rs 567×50 If Nifty closes at 5800 – Profit Rs 672×50
All the above values are approx figures
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Rajandran R FollowCreator of OpenAlgo - OpenSource Algo Trading framework for Indian Traders. Building GenAI Applications. Telecom Engineer turned Full-time Derivative Trader. Mostly Trading Nifty, Banknifty, High Liquid Stock Derivatives. Trading the Markets Since 2006 onwards. Using Market Profile and Orderflow for more than a decade. Designed and published 100+ open source trading systems on various trading tools. Strongly believe that market understanding and robust trading frameworks are the key to the trading success. Building Algo Platforms, Writing about Markets, Trading System Design, Market Sentiment, Trading Softwares & Trading Nuances since 2007 onwards. Author of Marketcalls.in
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31 Replies to “Directionless and Riskfree FNO Trading Strategy”
Future this month or october or november please mention sir.
Hi, Pls can you eloborate how the maximum loss risk is limited to 0.07% (Rs.250) ??Have you considered commission expenses also??Please reply.. Also please specify which software ar you using for getting option charts??
Commision Expenses are not included in this strategy. Iam using Options oracle to generate this strategy.
@BoopaThe Trade is between 25 SEP 2009 to 29 OCT 2009And trade can be close anytime before 29 OCT Expiry. If Nifty is exactly at 5200 at OCT 2009 Expiry you maximum loss is Rs 250Else Possibly you would be in profit regardless of nifty direction
rajandran,in which conditions the profit is infinity?
5200 we will be in loss.total premium cr. 45500loss in 5200 call(assuming 4800 ce oct rate)=275*50*5=68750.gain in nf=235*50=11750loss in nov 4800pe(assuming 4600pe oct)=40*50*4=8000thus, (45500+11750)-(68750+8000)=-19500correct me if i m wrong
loss is in 5000 ce nov not in 5200 ce, sorry for typo
SIR,YOUR GANN CHART STUDY IS OFF THE MARK. YOU RECOMMENDED THAT TATA STEEL AROUND 415 WAS HEADING TOWARDS 300.I TRUSTED AND SHORTED TISCO THAT CAUSED ME GREAT LOSS.
@AbishekPosition will be closed on or before OCT Expiry
@SukhlalGANN lines are the Stop Losses for your trade.When tata steel closes below the GANN Support line 420. I thought that probably it would test the next support zone of 300. But it surpassed above 420 i.e above the GANN line which denotes that the stock is out of bearishness. Which probably also makes the trade fail
Hai Rajandran can u eloborate what will be investment for the above trade.
Some Problem with the strategy tool. Looks some problem with the strategy. Now Option oracle is showing 5% risk 🙁
hi buddy why should you select 5 lots is there any reasons for it?, and buy oct call at 5200,4800 put how did you determine that values and the same as sell at nov 5000 call and 4800 put?
Current Maximum Loss will be -5.64%Return if unchanged will be -1.84%What is meant by Lower breakeven and upper breakeven then?Please advise. Thanks
sir i want to know that how u calculate this profit and loss>
plz reply sir.
rajendran can u pls re-correct the bugs cause while implementing it in the directionless-and-riskfree-fno-trading-strategy which u posted on september 2009!! so that like me a small trader and newbie would beniefit a lot!! and earn a decent income !! pls help us by correcting the startergy or if u find its not much correct then pls provide as such type of startergy for regular income !! pls support us!!! thanks ganesh
Hi Rajendran
please advise on above strategy with corrections.
thanks
Rajendran Sir, Can you guide for some Risk free option Strategy which may not give profit for 6 months in a year and give a decent profit for 6 months in a year
what are the rules of trading month wise this strategy please elaborate
Since you have to close positions at expiry of October 2009 series, you would be required to buy back the November 5000 call & November 4800 put which you had sold. How can you project profit or loss from the strategy without knowing what will be price of these options when you buy them back on October expiry?
Price of these November options will depend on where nifty spot is trading on October expiry. Also it is to be noted that decay in time value of November options may not be substantial during October as whole November would still have to go.
Please respond.
Rajandran Sir,
Could you Please Explain the above strategy as it’s sound interesting and will be helpful for all of us. I am trading from last 2Years in F&O some month profit but some in loss, not a stable income actually I am looking for small gain but no risk strategy or Very Low risk Strategy as like you shown above.
So that I cound earn in any directional mkt without predict.
Thanks
ramram
I read your direction less and risk free strategy I like it now nifty future cmp is 9118 if buy 5 lot of 9300call of current month sell 4 lot 9100 next month buy 5 lot 8900put current month sell next month 8900put 4 lot and buy nifty future cmp 9118 can I use this strategy for profit
what you get after investing 6 lacs is rs 4000 max per month. ie rs 50000 per year which amounts 8%. not worth calling a strategy
can we make profit in f&o without any loss with your risk free f & o trading strategy
I THINK APPROX. 1.5 % CAN BE MAKE EASILY IF WE ARE TAKING AN RISK APPETITE OF 5 % LOSS OF TOTAL CAPITAL AND SOME ARE TAKING IN 75 % AS COLLATERAL WHERE YOU CAN PARK IN MUTUAL FUNDS AND 25 % IN CASH.
AND SIMULTANEOUSLY WE ARE GETTING DOUBLE RETURN 1.5 % ON TOTAL CAPITAL AND RETURN ON MUTUAL FUND AS WELL.
APPROX. RETURN PROVIDER ARE AVAILABLE IN MARKET. PERFORMING WELL.
SIR CAN U PLEASE EXPLAIN THE PROFIT AMOUNT AT ANY PARTICULAR NIFTY LEVEL
Buy 5 Lots of OCT 5200 CALL : 66.60
Buy 5 Lots of OCT 4800 PUT : 92.00
SELL 5 Lots of NOV 5000 CALL : 220.60
SELL 4 Lots of NOV 4800 PUT : 155
Buy 1 Lot of Nifty Future at CMP: 4967
Position Will be Closed on or Before OCT,2009 Expiry
Maximum Loss Risk Involved in the trade : 0.07% i.e Rs 250
Maximum Profit Potential : Infinity
Return if Nifty remains unchanged : 6.74% i.e Rs 23,311
During OCT Expiry
If Nifty closes at 4300 – Profit Rs 820×50
If Nifty closes at 4400 – Profit Rs 802×50
If Nifty closes at 4500 – Profit Rs 761×50
If Nifty closes at 4600 – Profit Rs 680×50
If Nifty closes at 4700 – Profit Rs 551×50
If Nifty closes at 4800 – Profit Rs 325×50
If Nifty closes at 4900 – Profit Rs 460×50
If Nifty closes at 5000 – Profit Rs 447×50
If Nifty closes at 5100 – Profit Rs 270×50
If Nifty closes at 5200 – Loss Rs -0.09×50
If Nifty closes at 5300 – Profit Rs 144×50
If Nifty closes at 5400 – Profit Rs 263×50
If Nifty closes at 5500 – Profit Rs 370×50
If Nifty closes at 5600 – Profit Rs 471×50
If Nifty closes at 5700 – Profit Rs 567×50
If Nifty closes at 5800 – Profit Rs 672×50
Mr Rajandran Please reply to my query
Hi, Pls can you eloborate with a latest example trade.
Future this month or october or november please mention sir.
Hi, Pls can you eloborate how the maximum loss risk is limited to 0.07% (Rs.250) ??Have you considered commission expenses also??Please reply.. Also please specify which software ar you using for getting option charts??
Commision Expenses are not included in this strategy. Iam using Options oracle to generate this strategy.
@BoopaThe Trade is between 25 SEP 2009 to 29 OCT 2009And trade can be close anytime before 29 OCT Expiry. If Nifty is exactly at 5200 at OCT 2009 Expiry you maximum loss is Rs 250Else Possibly you would be in profit regardless of nifty direction
rajandran,in which conditions the profit is infinity?
5200 we will be in loss.total premium cr. 45500loss in 5200 call(assuming 4800 ce oct rate)=275*50*5=68750.gain in nf=235*50=11750loss in nov 4800pe(assuming 4600pe oct)=40*50*4=8000thus, (45500+11750)-(68750+8000)=-19500correct me if i m wrong
loss is in 5000 ce nov not in 5200 ce, sorry for typo
SIR,YOUR GANN CHART STUDY IS OFF THE MARK. YOU RECOMMENDED THAT TATA STEEL AROUND 415 WAS HEADING TOWARDS 300.I TRUSTED AND SHORTED TISCO THAT CAUSED ME GREAT LOSS.
@AbishekPosition will be closed on or before OCT Expiry
@SukhlalGANN lines are the Stop Losses for your trade.When tata steel closes below the GANN Support line 420. I thought that probably it would test the next support zone of 300. But it surpassed above 420 i.e above the GANN line which denotes that the stock is out of bearishness. Which probably also makes the trade fail
Hai Rajandran can u eloborate what will be investment for the above trade.
Some Problem with the strategy tool. Looks some problem with the strategy. Now Option oracle is showing 5% risk 🙁
hi buddy why should you select 5 lots is there any reasons for it?, and buy oct call at 5200,4800 put how did you determine that values and the same as sell at nov 5000 call and 4800 put?
Current Maximum Loss will be -5.64%Return if unchanged will be -1.84%What is meant by Lower breakeven and upper breakeven then?Please advise. Thanks
sir i want to know that how u calculate this profit and loss>
plz reply sir.
rajendran can u pls re-correct the bugs cause while implementing it in the directionless-and-riskfree-fno-trading-strategy which u posted on september 2009!! so that like me a small trader and newbie would beniefit a lot!! and earn a decent income !! pls help us by correcting the startergy or if u find its not much correct then pls provide as such type of startergy for regular income !! pls support us!!! thanks ganesh
Hi Rajendran
please advise on above strategy with corrections.
thanks
Rajendran Sir, Can you guide for some Risk free option Strategy which may not give profit for 6 months in a year and give a decent profit for 6 months in a year
what are the rules of trading month wise this strategy please elaborate
Since you have to close positions at expiry of October 2009 series, you would be required to buy back the November 5000 call & November 4800 put which you had sold. How can you project profit or loss from the strategy without knowing what will be price of these options when you buy them back on October expiry?
Price of these November options will depend on where nifty spot is trading on October expiry. Also it is to be noted that decay in time value of November options may not be substantial during October as whole November would still have to go.
Please respond.
Rajandran Sir,
Could you Please Explain the above strategy as it’s sound interesting and will be helpful for all of us. I am trading from last 2Years in F&O some month profit but some in loss, not a stable income actually I am looking for small gain but no risk strategy or Very Low risk Strategy as like you shown above.
So that I cound earn in any directional mkt without predict.
Thanks
ramram
I read your direction less and risk free strategy I like it now nifty future cmp is 9118 if buy 5 lot of 9300call of current month sell 4 lot 9100 next month buy 5 lot 8900put current month sell next month 8900put 4 lot and buy nifty future cmp 9118 can I use this strategy for profit
what you get after investing 6 lacs is rs 4000 max per month. ie rs 50000 per year which amounts 8%. not worth calling a strategy
can we make profit in f&o without any loss with your risk free f & o trading strategy
I THINK APPROX. 1.5 % CAN BE MAKE EASILY IF WE ARE TAKING AN RISK APPETITE OF 5 % LOSS OF TOTAL CAPITAL AND SOME ARE TAKING IN 75 % AS COLLATERAL WHERE YOU CAN PARK IN MUTUAL FUNDS AND 25 % IN CASH.
AND SIMULTANEOUSLY WE ARE GETTING DOUBLE RETURN 1.5 % ON TOTAL CAPITAL AND RETURN ON MUTUAL FUND AS WELL.
APPROX. RETURN PROVIDER ARE AVAILABLE IN MARKET. PERFORMING WELL.
SIR CAN U PLEASE EXPLAIN THE PROFIT AMOUNT AT ANY PARTICULAR NIFTY LEVEL
Buy 5 Lots of OCT 5200 CALL : 66.60
Buy 5 Lots of OCT 4800 PUT : 92.00
SELL 5 Lots of NOV 5000 CALL : 220.60
SELL 4 Lots of NOV 4800 PUT : 155
Buy 1 Lot of Nifty Future at CMP: 4967
Position Will be Closed on or Before OCT,2009 Expiry
Maximum Loss Risk Involved in the trade : 0.07% i.e Rs 250
Maximum Profit Potential : Infinity
Return if Nifty remains unchanged : 6.74% i.e Rs 23,311
During OCT Expiry
If Nifty closes at 4300 – Profit Rs 820×50
If Nifty closes at 4400 – Profit Rs 802×50
If Nifty closes at 4500 – Profit Rs 761×50
If Nifty closes at 4600 – Profit Rs 680×50
If Nifty closes at 4700 – Profit Rs 551×50
If Nifty closes at 4800 – Profit Rs 325×50
If Nifty closes at 4900 – Profit Rs 460×50
If Nifty closes at 5000 – Profit Rs 447×50
If Nifty closes at 5100 – Profit Rs 270×50
If Nifty closes at 5200 – Loss Rs -0.09×50
If Nifty closes at 5300 – Profit Rs 144×50
If Nifty closes at 5400 – Profit Rs 263×50
If Nifty closes at 5500 – Profit Rs 370×50
If Nifty closes at 5600 – Profit Rs 471×50
If Nifty closes at 5700 – Profit Rs 567×50
If Nifty closes at 5800 – Profit Rs 672×50
Mr Rajandran Please reply to my query
Hi, Pls can you eloborate with a latest example trade.
SIR WHAT IS SPOT PRICE & WHAT IS ATM CALL